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novice - founder
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If you think Racial segragation is still an issue how do you propose to deal with it? Do we offer scholarships to those who are underprivileged and of another color? Do we put money in segregated communities,ghettos? How do we face this issue?

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rookie - member
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this is a response that i have used in another discussion on a similar topic. this prompt, which is as relevant now as it was when first crafted, originated in all of the hub-bub around reverend wright's comments and senator obama's connection to him. i think it is relevant to your question about, in essence, affirmative action and/or other correctives we might put in place to make up for past/current wrongs. here is what i said:



we can't start the healing, until the wounding stops (johnson, 2002).

that much of our education turns out to be foundationalized by half-truths, shaky rationalizations, or outright lies, but simultaneously masterful in its domestication and dehumanization, I presume, helps lead tens of millions to be frustrated and/or outraged by Rev. Wright's comments. a truth this incisive cuts deep, puncturing our bubbles of 'progress', 'democracy', 'freedom', and all that.

yet, it isn't reverend wright's comments that wound, nor kill. one need only look at our history to find the true culprits of mass murder, exploitation, and cover-up. until we come to grips with this history of power, abuse, and extermination, we can't hear rev. wright, and candidate obama must distance himself from truth.

we can't make the 'racial' progress that obama points to until we come to grips with the stinging facts. we can't progress until we stop doing what we've been doing. we can't make 'racial' progress until we denounce the fantasy of race and, instead, talk about 'racialization' which has consistently provided America with a permanent exploitable and expendable underclass. we can't make racial progress until we deal with white-ness.

this isn't white vs. black. this is power and oppression based on artificial categories necessary to promote a capitalistic system in which some can have and most can't. period.

white people have long joined the struggle alongside 'racialized' others throughout history. we can continue that. but, our work is not to support obama's necessary disconnect from wright (if he wants to be elected in our smooth functioning democracy). our work is to support and understand wright who, i think, is telling us, we can't heal until the wounding stops.

rookie - member
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In addition to the fact that we can only seem to deal with Obama's theory of a post-racial world and not Wright's reality of a racialized one, has anyone else noted the new line of attack on Obama that consistently associates him with 'terrorists'?  First, it was Wright--comparing him to a fundamentalist sort of terrorist; now Palin (and soon McCain) is/are talking about Obama's connection to Bill Ayers, former Weather Underground--albeit a distant one upon inspection.  Casting aside the important role that the SDS and the Weather Underground played in resistance to the Vietnam War for a moment, why does this idea of Obama's connection to so-called 'terrorists' seem to get play in the psyche of Americans? Could it be that the media have already laid the foundation/template/rubric/conditions to cast Obama himself as a terrorist?  This has everything to do with race.  Why isn't McCain cast alongside the economic terrorists (the 'shock doctors' to coin a phrase from Naomi Klein) of our time?  Isn't he responsible for the de-regulation that has led, in part, to these devastating economic times? What was his relationship to the Keating 5 in the 1980s during the S&L scandal?  These people really destroy lives--physically, emotionally, spiritually. They steal from us and give to the rich.  Then, they make us live in fear that we cannot survive without them.  Sounds like fascism.  What the McCain/Palin ticket are engaged in is neo-McCarthyism. The Weather Underground never killed anyone. Obama isn't even close with Ayers.

 

rookie - member
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I should have stated, more accurately, that the Weather Underground, while accused in the death of one police officer in 1970 has never been proven to kill anyone.
novice - founder
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When you started to discuss the Government and its involvement in the psyche of the American people in the 1970's my mind immediately wandered to this idea of Cointelpro. The government has very meticulous plans for how to keep revolutionary ideas from occuring. Of course this is true, without a doubt.

There are just so much we can do without thinking about the repurcussions of living in a society under governmental restraints.

For anyone who is unfamiliar with this idea here is a little insight. It is very educational and if you are not familiar please take the time to check this out. This is only a link to part one of this film.

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novice - founder
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This is primarily an issue of exploitaton. If we are able to look passed race and look at what is really going on we would see that racism is a social contruct to literally strip anyone of color of their wealth without feeling guilty about it.
Education in schools is a perfect oppurtunity to create a reality for students to see that race is something our government historically put in place. Cointelpro is a perfect example of one of the subjects we should bring to light in schools.

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rookie - member
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The ideas of racial superiority and discrimination were present long before the signing of the Declaration of Independence, and have spanned across culures and continents. You're right, the entire idea of race is socially constructed, but we also have to look into the other factors which impose these thoughts on a group of people. The groups' history, economic conditions, religious beliefs AND their political systems are just a few factors on which we need to direct our focus.

But several fundamental questions remain. How are we going to fix this problem? To do this, I think that the government is going to have to play a role. For now, while the poor innercity schools who are made of predominanlty of minority studens continue to recieve inadequete state funding, the system of affirmative action is required to give a boost to Americans who didn't start out on a level playing field. We need to increase federal funding in our educational system, in programs like Head Start, in community centers and in after-school programs to give these poor students, who are dispoportinately minorites, the opportunites that they deserve. How are we going to pay for these programs? The 't' word always frightens people, but by simply increasing the tax rates for the wealthiest 10% by a couple of percentage points, millions of Americans would be helped exponentially.

And to redirect the conversation a bit, does the concept of reverse-racism exist? Look at the media treatment of Geraldine Ferraro, a lifetime warrior for human rights. She mentions Obama's race as a positive feature to his campaign and she's crucified by the media. Is our hightened sense of viglilance about race drawing us away from the real message of equality? And what about the other HUGE issue that exists in this campaign cycle that people don't talk about...SEXISM! It is still socially acceptable, if not encouraged, to be sexist! As a white, heterosexual male it is abnormal for me to argue on behalf of womens' rights! I could argue for days about how sexism was the reason for Senator Clinton's defeat and how the majority of claims harboured against Governor Palin (before it was revealed that she was clueless about the economy and foreign policy) were sexist. Why was Barack Obama not questioned about his ability to be a father when he becomes president? Why wasn't John McCain? Joe Biden? Even John Edwards when he was running?

This probably doesn't make sense, but I'm quite sleepy.

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